Top 10 best players.

Ratings do not transfer over time. Ratings are not a measure for absolute strength, but relative to each other.

Those numbers don't make any sense at all.

You can be sure that the champions of the past would still be very strong, even if they continued with their style, but they would stand no chance compared to the current elite players.

The old masters probably would not win any money in a strong open today. Chess ability / technique has risen drastically.

Have you ever investigated those world class tournaments some decades ago? The error quote was much higher. Full stop.

@The_ThreeChecks He is my favourite player. @nadjarostowa I understood that and thats why I removed the rating anyway thank you for noticing it. @Sarg0n The can adapt to it.

@The_ThreeChecks said in #30:
> why do you like Fischer so much? XD

Basically, the Soviet chess system was a massively effective machine for finding and developing chess talents, to the extent that it produced not only every world champion (except Fischer) but every WC runner up for the 50 years from the end of World War II to the fall of the Soviet Union. And when Fischer was at his peak, the absolute best of the Soviet school couldn't touch him - chessmetrics estimates that he was effectively rated about 150 ELO higher than his nearest rivals.

Basically, if you're rating people by how much they dominated their contemporaries (ie people who had access to basically the similar resources and the same base of knowledge as them) then Fischer is obviously top 3. You could argue which way it goes versus Carlsen or Kasparov depending on how much you want to weight the length of their times at the top compared to how much they dominated at their absolute peak.

We all know that we are like ants compared to humans when we talk about who is the best

@FreedBeast219 said in #33:
> @The_ThreeChecks He is my favourite player. @nadjarostowa I understood that and thats why I removed the rating anyway thank you for noticing it. @Sarg0n The can adapt to it.

Oh yeah, they are adapting like „Oh, I am much better, lets go on!“

Psycho-Bob would not play a single game under this modern conditions. Just sayin‘.

Old myths die hard - face the reality!

Putting an IM in top 10 is stupid.

@Random_Noob_787 said in #38:
> Putting an IM in top 10 is stupid.
yah

@RamblinDave said in #34:
> Basically, the Soviet chess system was a massively effective machine for finding and developing chess talents, to the extent that it produced not only every world champion (except Fischer) but every WC runner up for the 50 years from the end of World War II to the fall of the Soviet Union. And when Fischer was at his peak, the absolute best of the Soviet school couldn't touch him - chessmetrics estimates that he was effectively rated about 150 ELO higher than his nearest rivals.

In 1958 there was a real possibility that Bobby would become a Soviet citizen, but Soviet aparatchiks didn't recognize the historical importance. Young Fischer liked Soviet Union at that time, but he wasn't allowed to play any formal games against Soviet grandmasters when he was visiting Moscow.

Then he got furious, saying he was fed up "with these Russian pigs."

And that's how the rivality between Fischer and Soviets started.

If Soviet burrocracy made slightly different decisions back then, Bobby would be one of the many Soviet chess champions.