Why Don't Americans Attempt a Communist Revolution Already?

@Raspberry_yoghurt said in #20:
> Communish has wrecked every place it was tryed in, it's so weird anybody still is in favor of it.
Communism was never given a fair chance. Every time a country went communist, the rest of the world went against them, with napalm if necessary. No wonder they failed.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mongoose
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program#Cuba
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

@mango-in-my-teeth said in #21:
> Communism was never given a fair chance. Every time a country went communist, the rest of the world went against them, with napalm if necessary. No wonder they failed.
>
> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mongoose
> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program#Cuba
> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

Try living in a communist country. China is there, and flourishing but it is almost hell on earth. Amazing how half the world was communist at one time but supposedly communism wasn't "given a fair chance"
The fruit of communism and socialism is always sin and death

@mango-in-my-teeth said in #21:
> Communism was never given a fair chance. Every time a country went communist, the rest of the world went against them, with napalm if necessary. No wonder they failed.
>
> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mongoose
> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program#Cuba
> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

This is not true, but I know people like to pretend this.

Jugoslavia was left alone for instance. And there were more non-aligned countries like that, like Albania.

Communism was a trainwreck every time though.

(If you truly cared about this, you would yourself have checked if your theory was right by looking for Comminist countries that were left alone - and you'd have found them easily. But you don't care if it is true or not, you just want to write it to have something to say in debates.)

@Raspberry_yoghurt said in #23:
> But you don't care if it is true or not, you just want to write it to have something to say in debates
I am getting tired of being psycho-analysed by you every time I post something. Can't you just reply to my point and keep your analysis for yourself? I could also psycho-analyse you, if I wanted to, but I don't think it would bring anything to the debate.

@mango-in-my-teeth said in #24:
> I am getting tired of being psycho-analysed by you every time I post something. Can't you just reply to my point and keep your analysis for yourself? I could also psycho-analyse you, if I wanted to, but I don't think it would bring anything to the debate.

I am also tried of seing this sort of nonsense stuff for many years now and also tired of people using the same techniques like you do, which is meant to destroy debates and not further it.

I realized finally that the reason there is no progesss on the debates, like the open-border people in 20 years have not taken like 10 minutes to look up stuff ever.

The reason for that is that th open borders people don't WANT to look anything up, the interest is jnot in truth and helping humanity.

the interest is ust to put forward the exact same theory forever despite is being refuted every time lol

@Raspberry_yoghurt said in #25:
> despite is being refuted every time lol
Yeah the EU, with its open borders, is a perfect refutation innit? lol.

@Raspberry_yoghurt said in #23:
> Jugoslavia was left alone for instance. And there were more non-aligned countries like that, like Albania.
Once you remove all the countries that were NOT left alone, your argument becomes "Communism was given a fair chance in one or two countries and failed there".

Besides, the countries you are mentioning, while non-aligned, were still more or less in the orbit of USSR, and authoritarian (not to say they were dictatorship).

Sankara, on the other hand, was quite successful in Burkina Faso, until he was assasinated. Same thing with Allende in Chile.

@mango-in-my-teeth said in #27:
> Once you remove all the countries that were NOT left alone, your argument becomes "Communism was given a fair chance in one or two countries and failed there".

It failed everywhere.

> Besides, the countries you are mentioning, while non-aligned, were still more or less in the orbit of USSR, and authoritarian (not to say they were dictatorship).

No they were not in the USSR orbit. Hit the history books.

> Sankara, on the other hand, was quite successful in Burkina Faso, until he was assasinated. Same thing with Allende in Chile.

Obviously that doesn't count for anything.

@Raspberry_yoghurt said in #28:
> Obviously that doesn't count for anything.
That doesn't count because SOMEONE made sure it was not gonna count, and preferred to see a brutal military dictatorship than giving socialism / communism a chance. So that SOMEONE would be able to say: comlunism has always failed everywhere.

I am glad I live in a social democracy. But communism? No thanks. Tell me, in which direction did people run when the Berlin Wall fell? I have friends who grew up in Poland during the 1980s. It wasn't very nice. Most Polish people don't want to go back to communism. The only people who still want communism back are a few Russians who have nostalgic ideas about a new Soviet. Cuba and Venezuela have their own problems.

So no, I'd rather have a mixture of capitalism and socialism like we have here in Norway with personal freedoms and a welfare state that functions (somewhat). Most American's seem to be satisfied with their living standards, and America is still a country to which people want to go and live in.